Can thought see itself, see what it is doing, both in the outer and the inner?
A human being, throughout life, depends on thought and the things that thought has put together as being most essential....There is no thinker apart from thought; thought has made the thinker, the experiencer, the analyser. The thinker, the one who is watching, the one who acts, is the past, with all the inheritance of man, genetically, biologically - the traditions, the habits and all accumulated knowledge. After all, the past is knowledge, and the thinker is not separate from the past. Thought has created the past, thought is the past; then thought divides the thinker and the thought, which the thinker must shape, control. But that is a fallacy; there is only thought. The self is the 'me', the past. Imagination may project the future but it is still the activity of thought.
...someone comes along and says: ‘Now look, all that is the movement of the past.’
"If you observe, you will see that there is an interval between two thoughts, between two emotions. In that interval, which is not the product of memory, there is an extraordinary freedom from the `me' and the `mine' and that interval is timeless." -(The First and Last Freedom: Questions & Answers, Q17: 'On Memory')
“The mind must go through that small hole which it has put together, the self, to come upon this vast nothingness whose stability thought cannot measure." -(Krishnamurti’s Journal: Malibu, 23 April 1975, Copyright KFT)
What is the relation between the thinker and his thought?“Has it ever happened to you - I am sure it has - that you suddenly perceive something, and in that moment of perception you have no problems at all? The very moment you have perceived the problem, the problem has completely ceased. Do you understand, sirs? You have a problem, and you think about it, argue with it, worry over it; you exercise every means within the limits of your thought to understand it. Finally you say, "I can do no more." There is nobody to help you to understand, no guru, no book. You are left with the problem, and there is no way out.
Having inquired into the problem to the full extent of your capacity, you leave it alone. Your mind is no longer worried, no longer tearing at the problem, no longer saying, "I must find an answer"; so it becomes quiet, does it not? And in that quietness you find the answer. Hasn't that sometimes happened to you? It is not an enormous thing. It happens to great mathematicians, scientists, and people experience it occasionally in everyday life. Which means what? The mind has exercised fully its capacity to think, and has come to the edge of all thought without having found an answer; therefore it becomes quiet - not through weariness, not through fatigue, not by saying, "I will be quiet and thereby find the answer." Having already done everything possible to find the answer, the mind becomes spontaneously quiet. There is an awareness without choice, without any demand, an awareness in which there is no anxiety; and in that state of mind there is perception. It is this perception alone that will resolve all our problems.” -(Book of Life Daily Meditations: 'At the edge of all thought' - October 9, 2007)
Now, is there any such relation, or is there only one thing, which is thought, and not the thinker?
Because, if there are no thoughts, there is no thinker... Now, having thoughts, seeing the impermanency of thoughts, the thinker comes into being. That is, thought creates the thinker; and because thoughts are transient, the thinker becomes the permanent entity ... That is, thoughts are transient, they are always in a state of flux, and thought objects to its own impermanency; therefore, thought creates the thinker ... Then we try to establish a relationship between the thinker, and the thought which has created him. That is, we try to establish a relationship between that which seeks to be permanent, which is the thinker created by thought, and the thought itself, which is transient. But obviously both are transient. -(Collected Works: Bombay, 10th Public Talk, 14th March, 1948; ellipses added)
'How can there be a fusion of the thinker with his thoughts?' ... Not through the action of will ... The use of a means implies an agent who is acting, does it not?... The fusion takes place only when the mind is utterly still without trying to be still. There is this stillness, not when the thinker comes to an end, but only when thought itself has come to an end. There must be freedom from the response of conditioning, which is thought." -(Book of Life Daily Meditations: 'A wall of impregnable thought' - August 17, 2008; ellipsis added)
The Flowering of Thought
It is this passage that reveals the truly revolutionary nature of the talks. It is the end of "I must" or "I must not" - the death of the censor.
The analogy in this passage to the flower is strong. The existence/significance of the flower in nature (and its perfume) is a persistent theme running throughout the entire talks:
"Every thought and feeling must flower for them to live and die; flowering of everything in you, the ambition, the greed, the hate, the joy, the passion; in the flowering is their death and freedom. It is only in freedom that anything can flourish, not in suppression, in control and discipline; these only pervert, corrupt.
... To allow envy to flourish is not easy; it is condemned or cherished but never given freedom. It is only in freedom the fact of envy reveals its colour, its shape, its depth, its peculiarities; if suppressed it will not reveal itself fully and freely. When it has shown itself completely, there is an ending of it only to reveal another fact, emptiness, loneliness, fear, and as each fact is allowed to flower, in freedom, in its entirety, the conflict between the observer and the observed ceases; there is no longer the censor but only observation, only seeing....
SummationThe flowering of thought is the ending of thought; for only in death is there the new.... What flowers must come to an end." -(The Notebook: page 189; ellipses and paragraphs add)
"Giving the right place to thought brings clarity." -(The Transformation of Man: Part 11, Talk V, page 157)
"There is no simple path to the silent mind"
The Seat of Thought
From a Wider Perspective
The Revolution of Consciousness
The Importance of the Individual
The Seperate Self